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The Jeff Bowe situation

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Mr Farmer's comments to Bowe's blog; these are presented in reverse chronological order.

In reply to Bowe's posting of 28/5/08 entitled
Exposed!

"Jeff

I strongly suspect that once all enquiries have been completed a number of authorities will be taking far more interest in you and your activities than they will in Tibetan Way.

Chris"



In reply to Bowe's posting of 28/5/08 entitled
Tibetan Way-Another Christopher Hansard Deception?

"Jeff

You really are one of the saddest people that I've ever come across.

I told you that I would report back to you regarding my meeting with the owners of Tibetan Way yesterday. I also told you that due to pressures of work I would not be able to do that until late Tuesday / early Wednesday UK time and here I am at 9:18 UK time writing this. It would have been earlier but you've really stirred up a hornet's nest and I've been on the 'phone since 7:00 this morning. (It is now 12:14 when I post as a result of other issues that I have had to deal with)

Despite the foregoing you have posted yet another attack on Tibetan Way on your blog rather than wait for my report - have you really got nothing better to do with your time? If you have so much free time at your disposal I would strongly suggest that you engage in some intensive Vajrasattva practice - I presume you know what that is - which might rid you of some of your negative attitudes.

I've already had Blogger.com take down one of your malevolent blogs relating to Tibetan Way - hopefully the rest of your innuendo ridden blogs will disappear before long as well.

Before they do let's go through your latest posting.

Paragraph 1: Firstly you attack Christopher Hansard and mention "a number of very serious questions concerning that individual." Unfortunately that is all they are - questions. No one has produced any hard evidence to support the allegations being made against this individual and your aggressive and intimidating behaviour appears to have driven away people from that forum who may have had such evidence.

I have now read the entire forum in great detail. The first 15 pages contain reasonable and mature discussion of what may well be very serious issues. Unfortunately on page 16 the great Jeff Bowe makes his first appearance and the forum then gradually descends into a mass of vitriolic name calling and unfounded allegations with the exception of a few honourable posters who have attempted to take the forum back to its initial concerns rather than becoming embroiled in your personal vendetta against Christopher Hansard.

Anyone that does not agree with you is attacked mercilessly and vilified until they are driven away. Your initial postings came across as reasonably erudite and you have built up in people's minds that you are a person of great learning and knowledge about both Bon and Tibet. Many people on the forum have seen through your postings and asked you to provide some evidence of how you acquired this knowledge and questioned your motives in hounding Christopher Hansard. You have ignored all such requests but continue to attempt to demonstrate your knowledge.

Paragraph 2: An advert for one of your other blogs. It is interesting to note that in the forum rather than directing users directly to my comments here you are re-routing them via that other blog. Do you really think you can drive your pages up the search engines by such amateurish tactics?

Paragraph 3: The same boring repetition of comments you've already made in your blogs and in the forum ending with a comment regarding "fluency in reading and writing Tibetan." Given your questions of 27/5/08 in the forum regarding my use of the name Shedrup and your suggestion that Shedrup is a "supposedly Tibetan sounding name" it is quite clear to me, as I have already explained in my reply on this blog, that you actually can't read or write Tibetan and you have little knowledge of Tibetan culture. Anyone with even the slightest iota of the knowledge you claim to have would know that Shedrup / Shedrub is a common refuge name. As you clearly don't know that and don't trust anything I say I suggest you use your enormous investigative abilities and take a look at http://www.diamondway-buddhism.org/default.asp?col=01&t=dharmanames.htm which gives a very long list of Dharma / Refuge names with their translations - translations that you clearly need.

Paragraph 4: You state:

"Thus far, for whatever reason, Tibetan Way have been unwilling or unable to offer a shred of independent information"

I have repeatedly explained to you over the past few days the reason for the delay in obtaining a reply from the owners of Tibetan Way. Either you are ignoring my explanations in order to pursue your vindictive witch-hunt or, in addition to being unable to read Tibetan, you also have problems with the English language so let me explain this to you yet again in language that even you may be able to understand.

There is a place known as the real world where many normal people, who do not have the luxury of sitting at home concocting wild theories, go to something called work. They are paid money for this work and use that to support themselves and others. There is also something called a week which has 7 days. Times have changed but many people still only go to work for 5 days each week and those days are called weekdays. The remaining 2 days are called the weekend and are comprised of Saturday and Sunday and most people do not go to work on those days.

I hope you have followed thus far but you really will have to pay attention with the next bit. There are also days called bank holidays - I won't confuse you by explaining their origins - and many of these are on the day called Monday which comes after Sunday. On those days many people do not go to work so when this happens it means that they have what is known as a long weekend and this has just happened in England.

I work as a freelance consultant primarily in the fields of I.T. and I have what are called clients. They hire me to do work for them and then they pay me. Occasionally I may have lunch or a drink with them but even then we are still discussing work - in most cases my clients do not become close personal friends but remain business associates. As a result of that I have their office contact details but not their personal details so I cannot contact them when they are not in their offices.

Still with me?

I have repeatedly explained to you and the forum that I was not aware of the allegations regarding Tibetan Way in the forum and your blogs until last Saturday; we have had a long weekend and so I was unable to contact the owners of their site until Tuesday morning - yesterday - when they returned to their offices.

I hope that has all sunk in as I really can't conceive of a more simplistic manner of explaining this to you.

Returning to your demands for information and your behaviour over the past few days that behaviour has turned out to be self-defeating. When I spoke with my clients yesterday morning they initially regarded this matter as something of a joke and were inclined to join in by supplying you with a wealth of information about themselves. Unfortunately by the time I met with them late yesterday afternoon they, and their advisors, had read through the forum and your blogs and no longer regarded your rantings as a joke.

Having seen that I had provided you, and the forum, with all the information that I possibly could without breaching client confidentiality they then saw that rather than accepting that information in a mature manner you had used it to engage in a vendetta against me personally; asking ever more intrusive questions in a demanding, harassing and intimidating fashion.

As a result they will not be providing you with any information - they will however be producing a formal statement later this week which will be posted to your blog. If it is possible to post it to the forum then it will appear there as well. They will also, at some point in the next few days, be producing a disclaimer which will appear on the Tibetan Way website.

So once again your truly appalling behaviour will prevent the users of the forum who have genuine concerns from receiving the information that they have requested. Had you not interfered in this situation the information would have been provided so you have only yourself and your spurious accusations to blame for this. I hope you are satisfied with that.

I have seen legal documentation that clearly demonstrates that there are no copyright issues whatsover regarding the Tibetan Way website or the products sold there.

I will be having a lengthy meeting with my clients this coming Thursday after which statements and disclaimers will be forthcoming. The reason for this further delay is that their advisors need more time to complete their investigations. Having said which they have already presented me with information regarding you which I will be reading in full later today. An initial scan through it does suggest that many authoritative figures have serious doubts about the veracity of your supposed research and learning. No doubt I will return to this issue when they have completed their enquiries.

Have a good day

Chris"